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B5 4AU La Belle's (was Scarlets)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:28 pm
by zante
Scarlets Gentlemen's Club,
34 Horsefair,
Birmingham.
0121 622 4869

Birmingham's 7th central club. Objections led by the Royal Ballet were overruled.

Re: ?? B5 4AU Scarlets

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:51 pm
by The Great Smell Of Brute
Website: http://scarletsgentsclub.co.uk/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/scarlets.gentsclub.5/

It's unclear whether this venue is still operating - Yelp lists it as 'permanently closed', but the website still works. Nothing's been added to the Facebook page since 2011, but that may just mean that the management team is rubbish at social media! :roll:

Re: ?? B5 4AU Scarlets

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:03 pm
by Victor23
It features in

this video

of SEV premises in Birmingham, dated July this year.

Brute: I'll leave you to check the premises in the video against UTK listings. Note the proposed Adult World.

Re: ?? B5 4AU Scarlets

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:27 am
by saltydog
Well it is already out of date! Legs 11 on Broad Street (And possibly the one in Chinatown,) shut down a while back in a very public blaze of scandal.

Re: ?? B5 4AU Scarlets

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:56 pm
by The Great Smell Of Brute
Local 'journalism'. :roll:

Re: ?? B5 4AU Scarlets

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:03 pm
by The Great Smell Of Brute
Victor23 wrote:Note the proposed Adult World.
Hasn't Adult World featured strippers for a number of years now?

Re: ?? B5 4AU Scarlets

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:15 pm
by Victor23

Re: ?? B5 4AU Scarlets

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:19 pm
by Victor23
The Great Smell Of Brute wrote:Hasn't Adult World featured strippers for a number of years now?

"Every two hours"

Re: B5 4AU Scarlets

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:55 am
by The Great Smell Of Brute
From the above Birmingham Post article:

'Sarah Clover, the barrister representing Scarlets, said: "What is really being said is that the Royal Ballet and Hippodrome are purveyors of a higher quality of artistry and entertainment than an SEV (Sexual entertainment venue).

"That is a moral judgement and objection because the fact of the matter is SEVs are lawful and people are allowed to access entertainment in an SEV."

She added: "The fact is there are people in our city who would not choose to go to the ballet or theatre and would go to an SEV.

"You then get into the deep water as to whether it should be allowed.

"An objection based on that judgement should not affect a decision making exercise like this."'

Re: B5 4AU Scarlets

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:13 am
by TonyN
Owner of Scarlets looking to move and open in the business district as La Belles

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/m ... p-16122106

Re: B5 4AU Scarlets

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:29 pm
by TonyN
New venue approved which is basically going to be a rebranding. Interesting things that came from this.

The council recognised that some objections were moral dressed up as something else. This is good as we can try to find moral statements in templates.

Second we remember the issues we had with Equality Impact Assessments previously. It seems the Birmingham council took legal advice and felt they did not need to do one. This is a kick in the teeth after the legal action by Not Buying It previously.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/m ... d-16566997

Re: B5 4AU La Belle's (was Scarlets)

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:57 pm
by The Great Smell Of Brute
Some pretty cheesy and cliched (not to mention unsubstantiated) hyperbole from the objectors - dear, oh dear! :lol:

Re: B5 4AU Scarlets

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:02 pm
by The Great Smell Of Brute
TonyN wrote:[W]e remember the issues we had with Equality Impact Assessments previously. It seems the Birmingham council took legal advice and felt they did not need to do one. This is a kick in the teeth after the legal action by Not Buying It previously
That reminds me of the following article by Stacey Clare of the East London Strippers Collective, somehow...

http://sexandcensorship.org/2017/09/mal ... ed-london/


:wink:

Re: B5 4AU La Belle's (was Scarlets)

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:08 pm
by TonyN
Having spent a few hours reading various guidelines for EIAs I really can't see the logic that Sheffield applied in giving up. The guidance always seems to be about the council itself and not other businesses. Otherwise every shop, bar and other business would need to be assessed. Birmingham got it right.